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Frankie
does any body have the address ????????
Anonymous
http://www.geocities.com/nopatcrochet/
http://www.geocities.com/nopatcrochet/bargus.html
http://www.craftassoc.com/bargus.html

All basically the same thing, just different urls. Nothing sets barb off like the mention of this "personal" information. :roll:
DonnieMacLeod
TROLLS, TROLLS, TROLLS AND ONE BARGUS. Hi Sailormoon. Hope you were around lurking. Grace's MOON was in a sling the weekend. LOL Hope you got back to the troll post below Barbs Frankie. Funny Funny woman that Barb. I think Thursday is her day to get out the Hash oils. Sailor is correct about the personal info but she will give you everything for 100 dollars Candian,even her integrity.
BartMar
Whoopee!!! Jackpot!!!
Anonymous
I've always wondered what that crazy hag looked like. Somehow, this is a let down, she looks too, well.....normal 8O . I must now e-mail this to all Acme regulars! :twisted:
Anonymous
As you can see, in spite of Little Miss Vivisector Wannabe's despicable lies and stalking, I do not have a "home page". That IS what you asked for isn't it?

What I have is a page on two different sites.

BFD.


As for what you're going to do with this info, if you plan on stalking me too, get in line. SailorMoon has been at it for some time now. She's getting to be quite well known in the Computer and Internet Crimes Division - along with a couple of her friends.

Yep, BM, you've hit the jackpot alright. Now, tell me, do you plan to pull the same crap that SM has? I should tell you that what she has done is against the law. Make no mistake, she will get caught (especially now that she's moving)and I will prosecute. (SM, you know what I'm talking about, so don't bother playing dumb.)

Note that because of the ongoing investigation, I have quite a bit of information about her and several others. I would never consider sinking so low as to post anyone's name and address on any board in retaliation.

You people screech and yammer about how others hate humans, but the hate and vile behavior is on THIS board. Shame on all of you for being so willing to do this on the internet. I'd bet that not one of you would behave like this in real life, face to face, where you would be forced to face the consequences.

Yeah, you should all be reeeel proud of yourselves.

What cowards.
XXMag
I don't know, she scares the hell out of me. Those giant glasses, the hair that defies gravity, the feindish smile........ I had a crazy hag of a teacher in grade school that could be her long lost twin. I'm going to sleep light tonight.
Anonymous
So, tell me barb, how am I stalking you? This is always entertaining. And, how have I broken the law? By posting the url to your website? By visiting AZ on occaision for dog shows? Ongoing investigation, huh? You know, barb, if you really do report all your delusions to whatever authorities are "investigating" I'm sure they're on to you as the crazy, delusional old woman that you are.
XXMag
Two words. CAGE MATCH icon_lol.gif:
Anonymous
Uh, barb, I work in Silicon Valley and I have not seen any computer crimes broken. Unless you can prove that sailormoon and/or anyone else have either sent threatening email or any chiltd pornography or other illicit material, they have not broken any laws. The internet is public domain. If you did not want them to post your url, then you should not have registered your domain or put your website on a public server. You can always get a password protection. Please cease with ad hominems, we do not hate you or ARAs, we just get enjoyment in contradicting your propaganda icon_pimp.gif
Frankie
Barb i don't see any address posted . i do see your home pages and your picture .


would you like to swap links i will put your link on the index page with the other links . if your interested that is ?????????


i am sorry but i don't see what the fuss is about . hell ,,,,, a lot of people here have posted pictures of themselves here. my hunting page is full of pictures of me .

btw barb ,,,,,, got any pictures in a string bikini 8O
XXMag
I'M BLIND............... AHHHHHHHHH
XXMag
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Uh, barb, I work in Silicon Valley and I have not seen any computer crimes broken.


Actually she's accusing him/her of stalking.

WHO'S THAT BEHIND YOU!!!!!!!

Won't be long 'till he's burning down garages and firing magical shotguns...........
Anonymous
Frankie, you don't know the whole story. And, the name and address is right there.

crazy forechecker, I've never said she did any of those things.

She has sent threatening emails and much MUCH MUCH worse. Ask her about mail fraud. She's a pro at that.

She says all one has to do is a "simple websearch" to find all this about me. She's lying because the only way you can find it is if you have my full name. She took advantage of MY mistake when I twice posted my full name, she did a web search for it and came up with these urls.

Ask yourself this: Could you have found all this by using only the nickname I choose to use? Could you have found it by using "barb" to search by?

Could I find YOUR name and address if I used only the nickname you use?

Because of her stalking, I've removed my own web pages, my "home pages". Look again and you'll find they're gone. I have SM to thank for that.

You all have no idea what this crazy twitch has put me and my husband through. Both of us are disabled and she has said she'd like to "get me". (Yes, I have the proof) She has posted that she came to my home and "found out more" (That was posted on a now defunct board, and yes, I have that too)

She's been at it for several years now and it just keeps escalating. She's truly crazy and I'm sure she'll stop at nothing to get at me or my family.

She even put up a message board for the purpose of harassing and stalking me. YES, I HAVE PROOF.

She posts this every chance she gets and I'm sure she'd like nothing better than for me or my husband to actually get physically hurt by it. How do you think it feels to be disabled and know that some foul mouthed vicious nutcase like BartMar reacts to your home address with "Whooppee!! Jackpot!!" Take a look at some of the things he and others say on this board and then tell me its all just harmless fun.

I don't choose to have MY name and address on a message board like this. There are too many really vicious nasty people here. I don't choose to visit here, lurk here, post here and I want this post removed.

Understand, I don't mind the incessant name-calling. I don't read it anyway. But, Frankie, I want this post removed.

I am copying this to an email to Frankie so there can be no "confusion".
Anonymous
You are missing the point, Barb. The fact that you move your website onto another public domain just means it is still public domain. You can password protect your website. The fact that SM and others can find your website by doing a google or an aol search tells me that you are on a public domain. They are acting within the law. You cannot prove harrassment unless they hacked into your computer or sent you email that is of a threatening nature, and the only way you can protect your system is to obtain a firewall. So, as far as I can see here there is no harrassment. I've worked with security and these are our guidelines for harrasment and crimes
XXMag
HMMMMMMM I don't post there, but I hopped over to acme, and for someone who was raving about the 1st amendment you certianly want to suppress the content here. On this board he has only posted public domain and made no threats.

If he, however, is stalking you or threatining you have many legal recourses and I hope that you get justice.
Anonymous
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HMMMMMMM  I don't post there, but I hopped over to acme, and for someone who was raving about the 1st amendment you certianly want to suppress the content here.  On this board he has only posted public domain and made no threats.

If he, however, is stalking you or threatining you have many legal recourses and I hope that you get justice.


Plus, it is difficult to prove whether email content is threatening or to be deemed threatening. IP tracing can be tough since most ISPs use DHCP. She can trace email to an email server but it is not necessarily confined to a geographic location. All she can do is send a complain to the ISP or email service with user name attached and that person(s) usage will be revoked. Problem is that the offender can simply move to another isp or email provider and/or use multiple aliases
Anonymous
I have never sent barb an e-mail, harrassing or otherwise. I have, however, received an e-mail from her containing personal information about myself and several others who frequently point out what a lying crackpot she is warning me to "be careful". She has also had similar correspondence with a few others.

Her "personal" information (webpages) were found when she "accidentally" posted her full name on the Acmepet bulletin boards not once, but twice. I believe the excuse was being inept with her new scrolling mouse. :oops: Before that, nobody knew or cared to know about her secret crocheting life.

The "SailorMoon is stalking me" thing has been going on for years, she started saying that after I made the mistake of telling her I would be in her area for dog shows. Fact is, there's currently about 600 miles separating us, and that's not enough for me. Of course, nobody believed her and it was the subject of many a joke. This was followed by a period of "I never said SailorMoon was stalking me". Which again, was ridiculed and refuted by her own quotes. I guess she's back to her stalking delusions again. She also believes another poster sent government boogie men to spy on her. I do agree with her on one thing though; it is hard to imagine what I have put her and her husband through....since the only contact we've had is through these boards.

So, barb, you paranoid delusional lunatic, pucker up: :bootyshake:
Frankie
Barb ,,,,,,, the answer is no.
SkyeTerrier
On this board the poster known as "SailorMoon" will now be know as "SkyeTerrier". Hope that's not too difficult for anyone to follow.
Frankie
i don't know, some of us are a dumb bunch of low life scum bags here at the cess pool .
Anonymous
Really... people who want every personal detail to be private on the internet should:

a. not post on forums
b. not have info on a website
c. make sure they only give out a hotmail/yahoo email account
d. make sure their ip is not static or have a good firewall

otherwise: stop being paranoid!
DonnieMacLeod
I must say that the first thing I noticed on Barbs Geezer, was an Army Vet, with a beautifull pheasant painted on a wooden box which is for sale. I guess Money can buy Barb's code of ethics, as the old guy is an avid hobbyist who enjoys HUNTING <FISHING and GOLF among his wood working abilities. I wonder how the old guy would feel about the remarks Barb made about army vets & hunters to Bartmar. A defining moment for me in understanding the word hypocricy, is learning what Barb is about.
DonnieMacLeod
She says all one has to do is a "simple websearch" to find all this about me. She's lying because the only way you can find it is if you have my full name. She took advantage of MY mistake when I twice posted my full name, she did a web search for it and came up with these urls.



I did similar to a guy on envirolink Barb and for good reason. The fellow claimed to be a PHD. I figured that he would be articled if he were one so I did what sailor did when he posted his full name. I didn't come up with his name as a PHD ,Bsc or M.D. I did however find him under sales rep for herbal remedy for diabetes and cloresterol sales out of CHINA. It was kinda funny because he was claiming wonderful breakthroughs which he was making in his research into diets and his wife was calling for help on the web to eleviate her stomach aliments including excessive gas & nausia. I had with the guy oneday and his lies. I asked point blank why he claimed to be a PHD when his web pages proved he isn't. He pulled a rant like yours Barb but he stopped posting at Envirolink and disappeared. The lie was bigger then him I suppose. BTW he was death on animal produced insulin and recommended under his PHD header that people buy this paticular brand of rice encapsulated diabetic pills and cloresterol capsules. Following his advice could have killed people or sent them into insulin shock. Part of me felt sorry for the guy ,but another part told me I did the right thing.
Anonymous
You did the right thing. You exposed a fraud and the fact that he was from overseas could have protected him from any lawsuits or arrest if someone should die as a result of his advice. Working in the Valley especially in internet security, i found Barb's complaint of harrassment quite suspcicious. There were many ways to stop the harrassment like IP blocking, filing a complaint with the ISP, firewalls. But it did not seem that she was that interested in stopping the harrassment. It seems that she was far more interested in getting SM, a personal vendetta
Beaglemutts
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btw barb ,,,,,, got any pictures in a string bikini  8O


EWWWWWWWWWWWW - Frankie - you get sicker and sicker. I luv ya!

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Beaglemutts
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Plus, it is difficult to prove whether email content is threatening or to be deemed threatening.  



Exactly. I've been through this with the FBI a few times. Barb, if you are stupid enough to post your name and address at any time on the web, YOU are the idiot. Go do your crying over at GAGME. You'll get your high 5's over there. However, I would recommend that you don't post the picture.
xgirl
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HMMMMMMM  I don't post there, but I hopped over to acme, and for someone who was raving about the 1st amendment you certianly want to suppress the content here.  On this board he has only posted public domain and made no threats.

If he, however, is stalking you or threatining you have many legal recourses and I hope that you get justice.


Hmmm...I don't see that one. Is that the one where barb posted a link encouraging people to participate in an illegal activity?
Frankie
Beaglemutts,,,,,, icon_smile.gif
Anonymous
Looks like most of you think there's nothing wrong with SM sneaking around, finding my name and address and posting it to internet message boards without my permission.

So, how 'bout you put your money where your mouth is. If you really don't think what she's done is wrong, post your own full name and street address.

C'mon, if you really think I'm so wrong, why do most of you use nicknames instead of your full name? HUH?

Surely you're not going to be hypocritical cowards about this, ARE YOU?

And, like I said, most of you don't know the full extent of the harassment and stalking done by SM. If you did, I suspect you might feel differently.
I'm sure you'd feel differently if this was being done to someone you care about, or with whom you agree.
Frankie
barb your address has not been posted on this board . why should others post theirs .
xgirl
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Looks like most of you think there's nothing wrong with SM sneaking around, finding my name and address and posting it to internet message boards without my permission.

So, how 'bout you put your money where your mouth is. If you really don't think what she's done is wrong, post your own full name and street address.  

C'mon, if you really think I'm so wrong, why do most of you use nicknames instead of your full name? HUH?

Surely you're not going to be hypocritical cowards about this, ARE YOU?

And, like I said, most of you don't know the full extent of the harassment and stalking done by SM. If you did, I suspect you might feel differently.
I'm sure you'd feel differently if this was being done to someone you care about, or with whom you agree.


Barb,

No one had to "sneak" to find out your name; You posted it. No one had to "sneak" to find out an address for you after that because you published it on a web page.

So, if you consider posting a URL to a page you published harrassment/stalking/whatever, why do you feel it is ok to have cyber attacks(which are illegal) against legal businesses?
Beaglemutts
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No one had to "sneak" to find out your name; You posted it.   No one had to "sneak" to find out an address for you after that because you published it on a web page.  


Barbie - What don't you understand here? YOU are the idiot!
Frankie
Barb>>>>>>> the topic ain't coming down. there has been no TOS broken .
DonnieMacLeod
I see both of the I am an idiot threads which centered on Barb are gone. Her constitutional stupidy has been erased in both cases. Gagme is certainly not an area for free speech which she cherished so much when she jumped Bartmar. To bad really. I had to go out before I got to copy them for our viewing pleasure. I just knew they were getting the boot because the dialogue surely showed the Barberous Barb as a hypocrit and resident idiot over the gagme frying pan. Darn we could have had such fun with her claims. Did she ever acknowledge that SHAC are not nice people nor are they real wrapped up in the cloak of constitutional freedom crusade.
Anonymous
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Looks like most of you think there's nothing wrong with SM sneaking around, finding my name and address and posting it to internet message boards without my permission.


Again, be smart when you let other people have your info, there are plenty of ways to stay absolutely anonymous on the internet.

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So, how 'bout you put your money where your mouth is. If you really don't think what she's done is wrong, post your own full name and street address.  

C'mon, if you really think I'm so wrong, why do most of you use nicknames instead of your full name? HUH?

Surely you're not going to be hypocritical cowards about this, ARE YOU?


Okidoki, I use my real name, I have a website with info, hell! I even have pics (and plenty of em) of me, my husband, the pets AND even my home on the internet. To go even a step further: my COMPLETE home adddress used to be on a website owned by my husband's band because we were the contact address. Which only changed because my brother in law handles everything now. Still, it was up there for 3 years. And if you are a very smart cookie maybe you can even track me with my email address and ip, go ahead... I'll give ya a clue, I live in the Netherlands, that's in Europe. I live in the very lovely provence of Fryslân icon_smile.gif
Frankie
Alie ,,,,,,well if i ever come that way , you are buying the beer . your choice of course . :wink:
SkyeTerrier
Uh, Barb, where did I ever say that I've come to your home? Proof please. I've been in your state several times in the past two years, does that qualify? Oh, perhaps you're confusing me with JD, who sent the bogie men to spy on you. Also, where is this mysterious board set up just to harass you? Proof please.

I must admit, it's always highly entertaining when your looney buttons get pushed.
Anonymous
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Looks like most of you think there's nothing wrong with SM sneaking around, finding my name and address and posting it to internet message boards without my permission.

So, how 'bout you put your money where your mouth is. If you really don't think what she's done is wrong, post your own full name and street address.  

C'mon, if you really think I'm so wrong, why do most of you use nicknames instead of your full name? HUH?

Surely you're not going to be hypocritical cowards about this, ARE YOU?

And, like I said, most of you don't know the full extent of the harassment and stalking done by SM. If you did, I suspect you might feel differently.
I'm sure you'd feel differently if this was being done to someone you care about, or with whom you agree.


Barb, the only thingwrong here is your stupidity. Haven't you heard of identidy theft? What kind of numbnut would post their real name, let alone, their address. Welcome to the internet, dearie icon_evil.gif:
Anonymous
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Alie ,,,,,,well if i ever come that way , you are buying the beer . your choice of course .  :wink:


Of course! icon_biggrin.gif
Anonymous
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Barb, the only thingwrong here is your stupidity.  Haven't you heard of identidy theft?  What kind of numbnut would post their real name, let alone, their address.  Welcome to the internet, dearie icon_evil.gif:


Actually, what the heck is so different between info on the internet and public things like phonebooks and such? The only big difference is that you get the info quicker/easier but otherwise there's always been enough info around for plenty of loonies, heh
XXMag
I thought it was so in charachter to read her extoling her rights under the 1st amendment to protest over at Acme, and then come goose-stepping in here like the Gestappo demanding that Frankie censure his material.

Nothing whrong has gone on in this thread and I'm glad you stuck to your guns Frankie. I never had a doubt.
Anonymous
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Barb, the only thingwrong here is your stupidity.  Haven't you heard of identidy theft?  What kind of numbnut would post their real name, let alone, their address.  Welcome to the internet, dearie icon_evil.gif:


Actually, what the heck is so different between info on the internet and public things like phonebooks and such? The only big difference is that you get the info quicker/easier but otherwise there's always been enough info around for plenty of loonies, heh


What was Barb thinking? Wait a minute!! Does she think??? Off the subject, what part of Holland are you from? Been to Amsterdam, awesome town. My favorite city in Europe
Frankie
XXmag,,,,,,"Nothing whrong has gone on in this thread and I'm glad you stuck to your guns Frankie. I never had a doubt."


Anne says i have big guns 8O
Beaglemutts
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Anne says i have big guns  8O



Hell - I heard it was a cannon.
Frankie
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Alexie
Beaglemutts,
ummmmm I thought you where female?
RF
Strange that you take such offense, Barb. As I recall, you and your twisted minions were rolling in glee when you discovered- and posted- my real name.
xgirl
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Strange that you take such offense, Barb.  As I recall, you and your twisted minions were rolling in glee when you discovered- and posted- my real name.


:?

I missed that, but I'm not surprised.
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