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XBlackX
Four men have been charged in connection with a hare-coursing incident in Moray.

Three of the suspects, aged 49, 42, and 15, are from Aberdeen, while the fourth is a 43-year-old from Inverness.

Last night the chief superintendent of the Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) Mike Flynn said it was an “abhorrent” activity.

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OHIOSTEVE
wow a country the size of the UK and thousands of people hunting and you come up with 3 examples....yep sounds like a helluva tough law you got there queer boy.....didn'tone even say auspended sentence.......fuckin joke of a law being circumvented every day..... Don't get excited faggot, I said circumVENTED not circumSIZED....don't get all slobbery .
RF
Illegal to hunt rabbits.

What a fucked up country.
XBlackX
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 10 2009, 03:51 AM) *
Illegal to hunt rabbits.

What a fucked up country.


It's not illegal to hunt rabbits or hare but it's illegal to hunt them with dogs icon_wink.gif

The Hare is very much in decline in this country so I wouldn't be surprised if it's soon to be protected like the badger.
XBlackX
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Nov 10 2009, 02:49 AM) *
wow a country the size of the UK and thousands of people hunting and you come up with 3 examples....yep sounds like a helluva tough law you got there queer boy.....didn'tone even say auspended sentence.......fuckin joke of a law being circumvented every day..... Don't get excited faggot, I said circumVENTED not circumSIZED....don't get all slobbery .



Around 200,000 are said to hunt fox (before the ban) and this was a weekend pass time mainly Saturdays. Not all from this 200,000 are hunt since the stats are compiled from the countryside alliance membership and not all members hunt many are just hunt supporters.....

No real stats from the real scum underclass of hunter though since they have always been poachers! You see there are an underclass of "hunters" in this country mainly made up of terrier men from council estates.

You would need to count all the games estates and hunts in this country to get a real idea of the hunters who would be hunting with hunts at weekend and the games keepers who rear game birds. The law to protect game is the loop hole you regularly speak but don't realise that the sort of hunt scum you converse with are none of the above and would never be allowed on game estates in the first place!!!

But your logic is again flawed since I posted just a sample of the many convictions each year for illegal hunting of all kinds. I have stated before that many people are raped and murdered but the convictions don't ever reflect the amount......

At the end of the day hunting with dogs, in the UK, is illegal and you condone criminality and lawlessness.

RF
Some of my fondest memories as a youth were hunting rabbits and coons with dogs. I had a good beagle of my own for rabbit hunting but had to rely on others for opportunities to go coonhunting.
XXMag
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.
XBlackX
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Some of my fondest memories as a youth were hunting rabbits and coons with dogs. I had a good beagle of my own for rabbit hunting but had to rely on others for opportunities to go coonhunting.



If some of your fondest childhood memories are of killing wild animals I feel sorry for you and your sad upbringing.
OHIOSTEVE
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 11 2009, 06:19 AM) *
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Some of my fondest memories as a youth were hunting rabbits and coons with dogs. I had a good beagle of my own for rabbit hunting but had to rely on others for opportunities to go coonhunting.



If some of your fondest childhood memories are of killing wild animals I feel sorry for you and your sad upbringing.

And what fond memories do YOU have that made you the queer boy asshole that you are today?
OHIOSTEVE
QUOTE (XXMag @ Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.

I havent been out in a while....I think I may get the bow out and go try to ambush a deer.
XBlackX
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Nov 11 2009, 12:00 PM) *
QUOTE (XXMag @ Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.

I havent been out in a while....I think I may get the bow out and go try to ambush a deer.



Never seen a beached whale in camo before, shure you can get some to fit.......?
XBlackX
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Nov 11 2009, 11:59 AM) *
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 11 2009, 06:19 AM) *
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Some of my fondest memories as a youth were hunting rabbits and coons with dogs. I had a good beagle of my own for rabbit hunting but had to rely on others for opportunities to go coonhunting.



If some of your fondest childhood memories are of killing wild animals I feel sorry for you and your sad upbringing.

And what fond memories do YOU have that made you the queer boy asshole that you are today?


You certainly must have had a traumatic childhood for all the comfort eating you do fatty.
RF
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 11 2009, 03:19 AM) *
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Some of my fondest memories as a youth were hunting rabbits and coons with dogs. I had a good beagle of my own for rabbit hunting but had to rely on others for opportunities to go coonhunting.



If some of your fondest childhood memories are of killing wild animals I feel sorry for you and your sad upbringing.


Too bad that your thoughts on the matter are irrelevant to reality. You probably know they are irrelevant. You're just trying to project a sort of condescending disdain tempered by the compassion you like to claim.

Play acting.
iowanic
I've wondered if this desire to protect animals at all costs(Or near so, apparently) derives from insecurities experienced early in life.

If one worries that others don't love them, then the desire to protect those who they're convinced love them, no matter what they do(Animals, in other words) could become all-consuming.

To fill in the details on my theory:

If a child is raised in a setting where others who have the task of caring/raising them speak of their love for their child, while in fact displaying behavior that suggests otherwise(At least to the child) that child could grow to believe no one, anywhere, really loves them.
Such a child might be drawn to care for animals, since he might be convinced said animals, of course, love him, no matter what he does. He can trust them to give what he's missing in the rest of their life.
Grow a bit older and the protection of his 'real friends/family' might become a compulsion.....a desire to hold onto something they desperately fear losing....love from others....

Just my theory, mind you...

iowanic
Guess I should have put that in it's own thread.
Sorry...

RF
One thing for sure is it's not normal behavior. However, I think the reasons behind the behavior vary greatly.

For instance, one type I've noticed is the sort who uses animals to shore up their own sense of self. Much like the little meek guy who uses his big slobbering fierce Rottweiler to project what he would like to be; there is a type of AR who likes to project that he is an important person and is up to big important doings. He isn't just vandalizing some cages like the farm brat who lets loose the neighbor's chickens at Halloween. Oh no! He is an Abolitionist! A Liberator! A Freedom Fighter willing to sacrifice himself to the duties of his cause! Peter Pan need never grow up and damn if every day isn't Halloween. His self image is a mask...whether that mask was manufactured by himself or a neglectful mother is nearly irrelevant.

One neat thing about this is that he can claim to be successful no matter what, since the objects of his liberating activities can't testify to the contrary.

Hell needs opium dreams when you got that going for you, eh?
XBlackX
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 09:20 PM) *
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 11 2009, 03:19 AM) *
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Some of my fondest memories as a youth were hunting rabbits and coons with dogs. I had a good beagle of my own for rabbit hunting but had to rely on others for opportunities to go coonhunting.



If some of your fondest childhood memories are of killing wild animals I feel sorry for you and your sad upbringing.


Too bad that your thoughts on the matter are irrelevant to reality. You probably know they are irrelevant. You're just trying to project a sort of condescending disdain tempered by the compassion you like to claim.

Play acting.



Pretty convincing play acting having gone to prison for it...... I guess you have a bee in your bonnet coz one didn't rise to your last couple of posts?

All the same, most adult don't profess their fondest childhood memories consist of killing animals, well unless you exclude serial killers.....
RF
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 11 2009, 01:57 PM) *
Guess I should have put that in it's own thread.
Sorry...


Maybe you haven't noticed, but we're not usually all that anal about staying strictly to the original topic here.
XBlackX
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM) *
One thing for sure is it's not normal behavior. However, I think the reasons behind the behavior vary greatly.

For instance, one type I've noticed is the sort who uses animals to shore up their own sense of self. Much like the little meek guy who uses his big slobbering fierce Rottweiler to project what he would like to be; there is a type of AR who likes to project that he is an important person and is up to big important doings. He isn't just vandalizing some cages like the farm brat who lets loose the neighbor's chickens at Halloween. Oh no! He is an Abolitionist! A Liberator! A Freedom Fighter willing to sacrifice himself to the duties of his cause! Peter Pan need never grow up and damn if every day isn't Halloween. His self image is a mask...whether that mask was manufactured by himself or a neglectful mother is nearly irrelevant.

One neat thing about this is that he can claim to be successful no matter what, since the objects of his liberating activities can't testify to the contrary.

Hell needs opium dreams when you got that going for you, eh?



It takes an evolved mind to grasp the concept of compassion, I guess you have many years to go before you evolve.
RF
QUOTE
Pretty convincing play acting having gone to prison for it...


You would have rather not gone to prison for it.

But since you did...well that's just icing on the cake at this point, isn't it? You got street cred you can point to now.

XBlackX
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 11 2009, 09:41 PM) *
I've wondered if this desire to protect animals at all costs(Or near so, apparently) derives from insecurities experienced early in life.

If one worries that others don't love them, then the desire to protect those who they're convinced love them, no matter what they do(Animals, in other words) could become all-consuming.

To fill in the details on my theory:

If a child is raised in a setting where others who have the task of caring/raising them speak of their love for their child, while in fact displaying behavior that suggests otherwise(At least to the child) that child could grow to believe no one, anywhere, really loves them.
Such a child might be drawn to care for animals, since he might be convinced said animals, of course, love him, no matter what he does. He can trust them to give what he's missing in the rest of their life.
Grow a bit older and the protection of his 'real friends/family' might become a compulsion.....a desire to hold onto something they desperately fear losing....love from others....

Just my theory, mind you...


I have news for you iowanker, the vast majority of humans don't hunt and run around killing animals, why? Because they don't like it.

I love my wife and kids not my pets.
RF
QUOTE
All the same, most adult don't profess their fondest childhood memories consist of killing animals, well unless you exclude serial killers.....


I know very many people who look back fondly on their youthful hunting experiences. With no guilt. Of course, the entire experience doesn't consist of killing animals. That's just an agitprop technique used by antis.
RF
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 11 2009, 02:00 PM) *
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM) *
One thing for sure is it's not normal behavior. However, I think the reasons behind the behavior vary greatly.

For instance, one type I've noticed is the sort who uses animals to shore up their own sense of self. Much like the little meek guy who uses his big slobbering fierce Rottweiler to project what he would like to be; there is a type of AR who likes to project that he is an important person and is up to big important doings. He isn't just vandalizing some cages like the farm brat who lets loose the neighbor's chickens at Halloween. Oh no! He is an Abolitionist! A Liberator! A Freedom Fighter willing to sacrifice himself to the duties of his cause! Peter Pan need never grow up and damn if every day isn't Halloween. His self image is a mask...whether that mask was manufactured by himself or a neglectful mother is nearly irrelevant.

One neat thing about this is that he can claim to be successful no matter what, since the objects of his liberating activities can't testify to the contrary.

Hell needs opium dreams when you got that going for you, eh?



It takes an evolved mind to grasp the concept of compassion, I guess you have many years to go before you evolve.


Puff puff. icon_wink.gif
RF
QUOTE
I have news for you iowanker, the vast majority of humans don't hunt and run around killing animals, why? Because they don't like it.


How the hell would you know the "why" to what the vast majority of humans do or don't do?
iowanic
Actually, regarding my theory, Xblaxk, I didn't reference you specifically...

Interesting how you seemed to have thought so, though...

RF
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 11 2009, 02:08 PM) *
Actually, regarding my theory, Xblaxk, I didn't reference you specifically...

Interesting how you seemed to have thought so, though...



No...not really. He could have just been referencing himself as an exception to your general theory.
iowanic
I stand corrected.

RF
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 11 2009, 03:11 PM) *
I stand corrected.


Yet your general theory is not entirely without merit. Just not universally applicable.
RF
QUOTE
I guess you have a bee in your bonnet coz one didn't rise to your last couple of posts?


I don't really know what that means. Does it mean something like I'm irritated? I'm not. I don't dislike you, XBlack. In fact, I'm still of the opinion that you've caught more than your share of blame for things that were beyond your control. But on the other hand, there's no doubt you set off my bullshit detector sometimes.
XBlackX
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 11 2009, 10:08 PM) *
Actually, regarding my theory, Xblaxk, I didn't reference you specifically...

Interesting how you seemed to have thought so, though...



Erm, well you are surrounded by hunters and terrier scum (grace the exception) so your posts was meant for either of both myself and grace.

Next
iowanic
At least I got a repy to it out of you. It's a starting point...

Grace
QUOTE (XXMag @ Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.



How's Jeb doing? Is he potty trained? Is he smart? How's he with the children? You'll get him snipped right?
Grace
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 11 2009, 04:41 PM) *
I've wondered if this desire to protect animals at all costs(Or near so, apparently) derives from insecurities experienced early in life.

If one worries that others don't love them, then the desire to protect those who they're convinced love them, no matter what they do(Animals, in other words) could become all-consuming.

To fill in the details on my theory:

If a child is raised in a setting where others who have the task of caring/raising them speak of their love for their child, while in fact displaying behavior that suggests otherwise(At least to the child) that child could grow to believe no one, anywhere, really loves them.
Such a child might be drawn to care for animals, since he might be convinced said animals, of course, love him, no matter what he does. He can trust them to give what he's missing in the rest of their life.
Grow a bit older and the protection of his 'real friends/family' might become a compulsion.....a desire to hold onto something they desperately fear losing....love from others....

Just my theory, mind you...



A stupid theory, mind you...
iowanic
Clearly it needs work but I find the responses from some very interesting...

OHIOSTEVE
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 11 2009, 08:58 AM) *
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Nov 11 2009, 12:00 PM) *
QUOTE (XXMag @ Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.

I havent been out in a while....I think I may get the bow out and go try to ambush a deer.



Never seen a beached whale in camo before, shure you can get some to fit.......?


yep fit perfectly
OHIOSTEVE

Hell they even make it for little kids X!!!
OHIOSTEVE
QUOTE (Grace @ Nov 11 2009, 07:31 PM) *
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 11 2009, 04:41 PM) *
I've wondered if this desire to protect animals at all costs(Or near so, apparently) derives from insecurities experienced early in life.

If one worries that others don't love them, then the desire to protect those who they're convinced love them, no matter what they do(Animals, in other words) could become all-consuming.

To fill in the details on my theory:

If a child is raised in a setting where others who have the task of caring/raising them speak of their love for their child, while in fact displaying behavior that suggests otherwise(At least to the child) that child could grow to believe no one, anywhere, really loves them.
Such a child might be drawn to care for animals, since he might be convinced said animals, of course, love him, no matter what he does. He can trust them to give what he's missing in the rest of their life.
Grow a bit older and the protection of his 'real friends/family' might become a compulsion.....a desire to hold onto something they desperately fear losing....love from others....

Just my theory, mind you...



A stupid theory, mind you...

why stupid grace? Because you don't like it?
RF
QUOTE (Grace @ Nov 11 2009, 04:29 PM) *
QUOTE (XXMag @ Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.



How's Jeb doing? Is he potty trained? Is he smart? How's he with the children? You'll get him snipped right?


Not to speak ill of a man's dog....but I've never considered beagles the geniuses of the dog world. The dog exists mainly to push around the nose. I could be unfairly stereotyping them.
Grace
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 11:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Nov 11 2009, 04:29 PM) *
QUOTE (XXMag @ Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.



How's Jeb doing? Is he potty trained? Is he smart? How's he with the children? You'll get him snipped right?


Not to speak ill of a man's dog....but I've never considered beagles the geniuses of the dog world. The dog exists mainly to push around the nose. I could be unfairly stereotyping them.



Sort of like Iowa's theory unfairly stereotyping people who help animals.
Grace
Nic
QUOTE
I've wondered if this desire to protect animals at all costs(Or near so, apparently) derives from insecurities experienced early in life. If one worries that others don't love them, then the desire to protect those who they're convinced love them, no matter what they do(Animals, in other words) could become all-consuming.


How on earth do you know people are convinced a cow loves them, or a deer, a chicken, gamefowl, mink, eagle, or a duck? Or even a frozen iguana? Where did you come up with this idea? When people rescue animals I doubt to high heaven they're convinced the animal LOVES them, and this fills some inherent hole in their heart from a family who didn't. I never ever heard that in my entire life.


Nic
QUOTE
To fill in the details on my theory:

If a child is raised in a setting where others who have the task of caring/raising them speak of their love for their child, while in fact displaying behavior that suggests otherwise(At least to the child) that child could grow to believe no one, anywhere, really loves them.
Such a child might be drawn to care for animals, since he might be convinced said animals, of course, love him, no matter what he does. He can trust them to give what he's missing in the rest of their life.
Grow a bit older and the protection of his 'real friends/family' might become a compulsion.....a desire to hold onto something they desperately fear losing....love from others....

Just my theory, mind you...


MOOT. Not 'MUTE' AL and X.

I had a wonderful childhood. I think back on it often. I thank my family for giving me cherished memories and laying a solid foundation for my future life. I love animals. Yeah, more than people usually. But that knight anole I saved, or baby possum or dove, well I know they don't love me back, in fact they can't wait to get the hell as far away from me as possible. I'm not a retard.


XBlackX
QUOTE (Grace @ Nov 12 2009, 02:26 PM) *
Nic
QUOTE
I've wondered if this desire to protect animals at all costs(Or near so, apparently) derives from insecurities experienced early in life. If one worries that others don't love them, then the desire to protect those who they're convinced love them, no matter what they do(Animals, in other words) could become all-consuming.


How on earth do you know people are convinced a cow loves them, or a deer, a chicken, gamefowl, mink, eagle, or a duck? Or even a frozen iguana? Where did you come up with this idea? When people rescue animals I doubt to high heaven they're convinced the animal LOVES them, and this fills some inherent hole in their heart from a family who didn't. I never ever heard that in my entire life.


Nic
QUOTE
To fill in the details on my theory:

If a child is raised in a setting where others who have the task of caring/raising them speak of their love for their child, while in fact displaying behavior that suggests otherwise(At least to the child) that child could grow to believe no one, anywhere, really loves them.
Such a child might be drawn to care for animals, since he might be convinced said animals, of course, love him, no matter what he does. He can trust them to give what he's missing in the rest of their life.
Grow a bit older and the protection of his 'real friends/family' might become a compulsion.....a desire to hold onto something they desperately fear losing....love from others....

Just my theory, mind you...


MOOT. Not 'MUTE' AL and X.

I had a wonderful childhood. I think back on it often. I thank my family for giving me cherished memories and laying a solid foundation for my future life. I love animals. Yeah, more than people usually. But that knight anole I saved, or baby possum or dove, well I know they don't love me back, in fact they can't wait to get the hell as far away from me as possible. I'm not a retard.



Moot or mute depending on it's use. Mute as in not worth listening to.
XBlackX
I see fatty is posting pictures of kids again..... Wow you have an obsession with kids hunting, you really should tell your shrink about this the next time you go for your breakdown therapy session .
XXMag
QUOTE (RF @ Nov 11 2009, 11:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Nov 11 2009, 04:29 PM) *
QUOTE (XXMag @ Nov 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
I wasn't planning on hunting with my new beagle, but I could change my mind.



How's Jeb doing? Is he potty trained? Is he smart? How's he with the children? You'll get him snipped right?


Not to speak ill of a man's dog....but I've never considered beagles the geniuses of the dog world. The dog exists mainly to push around the nose. I could be unfairly stereotyping them.


He’s smart enough I guess. We’ve only had him a little over a month, but I wouldn’t call exceptionally bright, but I wouldn’t say he’s exceptionally dumb either. The house breaking was rough at first, but is going very well now -- he’s pretty much got it figured out. He’s a pure bred dog, but we probably will get him fixed. He’s pretty good with the kids, especially my boy. My daughter is still young and whenever she gets down on the floor to play Jeb won’t leave her alone. He’s just trying to play with her, but it’s still an aggravation.

I’d say that he’d be a good hunting dog except he doesn’t like inclement weather. One month as a housedog and he’s already spoiled rotten.
OHIOSTEVE
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 12 2009, 01:49 PM) *
I see fatty is posting pictures of kids again..... Wow you have an obsession with kids hunting, you really should tell your shrink about this the next time you go for your breakdown therapy session .

I guess I could go find some gay porn and spam the board with that....might cause you to get all worked up though... May even induce flashbacks.
Grace
XXBlack
QUOTE
Moot or mute depending on it's use. Mute as in not worth listening to.



A 'mute' point? Never heard of that. Can you support it, as I looked up the definition (m-w) and their various definitions also don't support it.
iowanic
DOESN"T SUPPORT sounds better, Grace.

I'm definately not the one to toy at language-cop, though....

XBlackX
QUOTE (Grace @ Nov 12 2009, 08:08 PM) *
XXBlack
QUOTE
Moot or mute depending on it's use. Mute as in not worth listening to.



A 'mute' point? Never heard of that. Can you support it, as I looked up the definition (m-w) and their various definitions also don't support it.


Mute as in deaf..?
XBlackX
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Nov 12 2009, 08:05 PM) *
QUOTE (XBlackX @ Nov 12 2009, 01:49 PM) *
I see fatty is posting pictures of kids again..... Wow you have an obsession with kids hunting, you really should tell your shrink about this the next time you go for your breakdown therapy session .

I guess I could go find some gay porn and spam the board with that....might cause you to get all worked up though... May even induce flashbacks.



I always though it was you would spammed EL with gay porn.

By the way you do know it is illegal to throw around homophobic remarks don't you?
Grace
Grace
QUOTE
A 'mute' point? Never heard of that. Can you support it, as I looked up the definition (m-w) and their various definitions also don't support it.


XBlack
QUOTE
Mute as in deaf..?



Grace
QUOTE
I know what it means but you can't call a point, discussion or argument deaf.



Main Entry: 1mute
Pronunciation: \ˈmyüt\
Function: adjective

1 : unable to speak : lacking the power of speech
2 : characterized by absence of speech: as a : felt or experienced but not expressed <touched her hand in mute sympathy> b : refusing to plead directly or stand trial <the prisoner stands mute>
3 : remaining silent, undiscovered, or unrecognized
4 a : contributing nothing to the pronunciation of a word <the b in plumb is mute> b : contributing to the pronunciation of a word but not representing the nucleus of a syllable <the e in mate is mute>



MOOT

Use moot in a Sentence
–adjective
1. open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
3. Chiefly Law. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical.
Grace
QUOTE (iowanic @ Nov 12 2009, 03:12 PM) *
DOESN"T SUPPORT sounds better, Grace.

I'm definately not the one to toy at language-cop, though....



And it's a good thing you don't.

A 'mute' point? Never heard of that. Can you support it, as I looked up the definition (m-w) and their various definitions also don't support it.


definitions don't support - correct
definitions doesn't support - incorrect

definition don't support - incorrect
definition doesn't support - correct


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