XXMag
Oct 8 2009, 11:13 AM
Coincidentally, the interstate near here was shut down for four hours due to a fatal accident that started with striking a deer.
Just thought I’d mention it.
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 08:09 AM)

Some normal people out there thank god. Looks like he might be done. Too bad as I was hoping he'd get crushed under his truck before getting caught.
Same subject:
http://www.deerhuntingchat.com/viewtopic.php?p=38031These "normal people" kill deer using machines and get their asses in an uproar about somebody else who kills deer using a machine.
Yes....they're normal. Sadly.
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 08:05 AM)

RF
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It isn't unethical to eradicate vermin. Deer are lucky in that they are useful in addition to being vermin....but they are vermin nonetheless. There is no "might" save human life component to killing deer. The link is causal and definite.
In RFwiki-d book you mean.
In any rational sense of the term. You won't be able to make any sort of rational case to the contrary.
OHIOSTEVE
Oct 8 2009, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 09:09 AM)

Some normal people out there thank god. Looks like he might be done. Too bad as I was hoping he'd get crushed under his truck before getting caught.
Same subject:
http://www.deerhuntingchat.com/viewtopic.php?p=38031hmm, from what I saw in the videos he isn't doing anything illegal. he is driving ( legal) in a truck that has a heavy front bumper( legal) he hits deer that run out in front of his truck ( legal) He simply does not attempt to miss them ( also legal).
I wouldn't doubt that he may find himself in deep shit. There really isn't anyone safe from the rabid embrace of the foaming and frothing mob and their thug enforcers in this country. Rule of Law is one big fucking joke. This case is just further illustration.
I'm so ashamed that I ever served this decaying empire.
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Oct 8 2009, 10:20 AM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 09:09 AM)

Some normal people out there thank god. Looks like he might be done. Too bad as I was hoping he'd get crushed under his truck before getting caught.
Same subject:
http://www.deerhuntingchat.com/viewtopic.php?p=38031hmm, from what I saw in the videos he isn't doing anything illegal. he is driving ( legal) in a truck that has a heavy front bumper( legal) he hits deer that run out in front of his truck ( legal) He simply does not attempt to miss them ( also legal).
See my above post.
Also, attempting to miss a deer is probably the worst course of action you could take at any sort of speed at all.
From Grace's deer hunting chat:
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Trying to find that buck of a lifetime is hard enough without aholes like this guy going around killing 300 deer.
I suspect that the people who glory in these huge deer populations are often people who wouldn't have a snowball's chance of killing a deer unless their population is at the point you have to kick them out of your way to get to your deerstand.
So somebody kills some deer and that makes it harder for this pussy to kill a deer. Fucking communist.
I know a couple of people who have killed deer in those numbers walking around in the woods carrying their own machines of choice. Should they quit too because this nimrod doesn't think it's fair?
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PETA loves this kind of stuff and would find out that he used to be a hunter, still is or something like that
Got news for ya. They don't like shooting them with guns either. Maybe you should quit before you piss them off or something. Pussy.
Three "Super Moderators" and an "Admin" on that one little thread at that deer hunting site. I bet I could get banned very quickly by doing nothing but speaking the truth. Fuck 'em though. They get what they deserve.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (XXMag @ Oct 8 2009, 01:13 PM)

Coincidentally, the interstate near here was shut down for four hours due to a fatal accident that started with striking a deer.
Just thought I’d mention it.
I don't know why. Deer meeting cars head on is not news. What this guy is doing with his truck has nothing to do 'saving human lives'.
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 10:41 AM)

QUOTE (XXMag @ Oct 8 2009, 01:13 PM)

Coincidentally, the interstate near here was shut down for four hours due to a fatal accident that started with striking a deer.
Just thought I’d mention it.
I don't know why. Deer meeting cars head on is not news. What this guy is doing with his truck has nothing to do 'saving human lives'.
It's indisputable that less vermin crossing the road necessarily results in less chance of someone crashing into said vermin and being killed or injured.
But who gives a shit, right? Fucking people should swerve into trees and shit to avoid running over those vermin.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 11:45 AM
RF
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Also, attempting to miss a deer is probably the worst course of action you could take at any sort of speed at all.
LOL! Even 5 mph? 10? 20? I hit a deer once in heavy fog driving through the Poconos. Luckily I was going very slowly and managed to stop in time, but the front bumper knocked him over like a bowling pin. He had a hard time getting up, but was unhurt. That's one thing I do not miss about PA.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 11:46 AM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 01:45 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 10:41 AM)

QUOTE (XXMag @ Oct 8 2009, 01:13 PM)

Coincidentally, the interstate near here was shut down for four hours due to a fatal accident that started with striking a deer.
Just thought I’d mention it.
I don't know why. Deer meeting cars head on is not news. What this guy is doing with his truck has nothing to do 'saving human lives'.
It's indisputable that less vermin crossing the road necessarily results in less chance of someone crashing into said vermin and being killed or injured.
But who gives a shit, right? Fucking people should swerve into trees and shit to avoid running over those vermin.
You're just pissed off cause of that hunting site. Deer aren't vermin either.
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 10:45 AM)

RF
QUOTE
Also, attempting to miss a deer is probably the worst course of action you could take at any sort of speed at all.
LOL! Even 5 mph? 10? 20? I hit a deer once in heavy fog driving through the Poconos. Luckily I was going very slowly and managed to stop in time, but the front bumper knocked him over like a bowling pin. He had a hard time getting up, but was unhurt. That's one thing I do not miss about PA.
First, if you hit him you didn't "stop in time" if your intention was to avoid hitting him.
Second, you're just telling yourself he was unhurt.
Next time swerve into the trees doing 60mph.
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 10:46 AM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 01:45 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 10:41 AM)

QUOTE (XXMag @ Oct 8 2009, 01:13 PM)

Coincidentally, the interstate near here was shut down for four hours due to a fatal accident that started with striking a deer.
Just thought I’d mention it.
I don't know why. Deer meeting cars head on is not news. What this guy is doing with his truck has nothing to do 'saving human lives'.
It's indisputable that less vermin crossing the road necessarily results in less chance of someone crashing into said vermin and being killed or injured.
But who gives a shit, right? Fucking people should swerve into trees and shit to avoid running over those vermin.
You're just pissed off cause of that hunting site. Deer aren't vermin either.
I said you wouldn't be able to rationally argue that they aren't. So you're reduced to silly contradiction.
Substitute "deer" for "vermin" if the term isn't to your liking. You still won't be able to dispute my statement. So that's lose/lose for you.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 12:01 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 01:47 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 10:45 AM)

RF
QUOTE
Also, attempting to miss a deer is probably the worst course of action you could take at any sort of speed at all.
LOL! Even 5 mph? 10? 20? I hit a deer once in heavy fog driving through the Poconos. Luckily I was going very slowly and managed to stop in time, but the front bumper knocked him over like a bowling pin. He had a hard time getting up, but was unhurt. That's one thing I do not miss about PA.
First, if you hit him you didn't "stop in time" if your intention was to avoid hitting him.
Second, you're just telling yourself he was unhurt.
Next time swerve into the trees doing 60mph.
No, seriously, the car had just stopped and touched him. He had a hard time getting up because of his hooves on the pavement and his shock over the whole thing. He got up and bounded into the woods. His ass mighta been a little sore but no worse for the wear. And why the hell should I speed up to 60 and kill myself in fog? duh.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 12:04 PM
NOUN:
pl. vermin
1. Various small animals or insects, such as rats or cockroaches, that are destructive, annoying, or injurious to health.
2. Animals that prey on game, such as foxes or weasels.
1. A person considered loathsome or highly offensive.
2. Such people considered as a group.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 12:05 PM
deer
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–noun, plural deer, (occasionally) deers.
1. any of several ruminants of the family Cervidae, most of the males of which have solid, deciduous antlers.
2. any of the smaller species of this family, as distinguished from the moose, elk, etc.
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Grace
Oct 8 2009, 12:07 PM
RF
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It's indisputable that less vermin crossing the road necessarily results in less chance of someone crashing into said vermin and being killed or injured.
But who gives a shit, right? Fucking people should swerve into trees and shit to avoid running over those vermin.
It is disputable since rats, mice, weasels, fox, cockroaches don't really cause cause car crashes resulting in people being killed or injured.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 12:10 PM
Deer Hunting season isn't called Vermin Hunting season. I do believe it's OPEN hunting season on vermin, not deer. You may think they're vermin, but you're wrong.
I found two definitions that support my use of the term "vermin", but it isn't my intention to get into a semantic argument. After all, we both know what I mean when I refer to deer as vermin, so your semantic argument is irrelevant quibble.
Besides, I told you that you were welcome to substitute the term "deer" for the places in my statement where I used "vermin." I told you that you still wouldn't be able to refute my statement. Obviously you found this to be true and have decided to depend on your quibble.
I anticipated all this.
RF wins again.
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 11:01 AM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 01:47 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 10:45 AM)

RF
QUOTE
Also, attempting to miss a deer is probably the worst course of action you could take at any sort of speed at all.
LOL! Even 5 mph? 10? 20? I hit a deer once in heavy fog driving through the Poconos. Luckily I was going very slowly and managed to stop in time, but the front bumper knocked him over like a bowling pin. He had a hard time getting up, but was unhurt. That's one thing I do not miss about PA.
First, if you hit him you didn't "stop in time" if your intention was to avoid hitting him.
Second, you're just telling yourself he was unhurt.
Next time swerve into the trees doing 60mph.
No, seriously, the car had just stopped and touched him. He had a hard time getting up because of his hooves on the pavement and his shock over the whole thing. He got up and bounded into the woods. His ass mighta been a little sore but no worse for the wear. And why the hell should I speed up to 60 and kill myself in fog? duh.
It's not unknown for wild animals to die of shock after a traumatic incident such as being "knocked over like a bowling pin."
But you tell yourself whatever you want. I doubt you verified the deer was unharmed.
Just as a side note; I know the immediate area of this guy quite well. (He isn't exaggerating about the deer vs vehicle collisions resulting in human death.) I've fished and hunted there quite a bit in the past, and I think it would be wonderful entertainment if PETA or some other busybody do-gooder organization would show up there and mount some sort of protest amongst those river rats. Taking it on yourself to go into the hills of Eastern Kentucky and mouth off about their marijuana patches would be as productive.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 04:35 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 05:00 PM)

I found two definitions that support my use of the term "vermin", but it isn't my intention to get into a semantic argument. After all, we both know what I mean when I refer to deer as vermin, so your semantic argument is irrelevant quibble.
Besides, I told you that you were welcome to substitute the term "deer" for the places in my statement where I used "vermin." I told you that you still wouldn't be able to refute my statement. Obviously you found this to be true and have decided to depend on your quibble.
I anticipated all this.
RF wins again.
Yeah, just like a poker game.
OHIOSTEVE
Oct 8 2009, 05:41 PM
RF, How far can a deer run on pure adreneline after being literally killed? I mean for instance graces bowling pin deer.
Grace
Oct 8 2009, 05:46 PM
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Oct 8 2009, 07:41 PM)

RF, How far can a deer run on pure adreneline after being literally killed? I mean for instance graces bowling pin deer.
I didn't hit the damn deer. Just as the car stopped, its bumper gently came to rest upon the deer's flank. She then lost her balance from the wind draft of the engine running. It was like I poked her with my pinky finger. Hell for all I know she was the clumsiest deer in the PA mtns.
OHIOSTEVE
Oct 8 2009, 06:14 PM
I know of a guy who was killed in a car wreck..he never even scratched his car or dented it or anything....killed him dead as hell.
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 03:46 PM)

QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Oct 8 2009, 07:41 PM)

RF, How far can a deer run on pure adreneline after being literally killed? I mean for instance graces bowling pin deer.
I didn't hit the damn deer. Just as the car stopped, its bumper gently came to rest upon the deer's flank. She then lost her balance from the wind draft of the engine running. It was like I poked her with my pinky finger. Hell for all I know she was the clumsiest deer in the PA mtns.
Hmmm....earlier it was you knocked her over like a bowling pin.
Hey...it's your story...you tell it. Would help if it stayed the same though.
So how did you verify the deer was unhurt?
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 10:03 PM
http://web.extension.uiuc.edu/wildlife/fil...ldlife_code.pdfbeen reading through the regs , this man is screwed and by himself .
this man is nothing more than a poacher . i can't defend he actions in any way . what he is doing is against the law .
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 10:09 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 7 2009, 02:12 AM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 6 2009, 10:27 PM)

i'm pretty sure he breaking some traffic laws . reckless driving , disorderly conduct with auto , may be reckless endangerment .
i'll bet game laws too .
It's reckless to drive a vehicle that is safer in a deer collision than most other vehicles are?
Here I think the game laws allow you to keep a deer you hit with your vehicle.
get a cop behind you and cross the yellow line . here he can charge you with reckless driving .
IF it is a accident you can in Illinois if you get it mounted you have to get a tag , what he is doing is not accidental .
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 10:12 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 7 2009, 05:29 PM)

Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
when it is used in a illegal way ,,, yes it is wrong
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 7 2009, 05:50 PM)

So anyway, it's wrong to kill deer using a machine because.....?
Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
Or is it because in using his machine, he minimizes the chances of himself being injured in the process of killing deer? --------------------
Mr. Editor in chief, you couldn't put those 3 fucking questions in one post?

It's wrong to purposely kill a deer with a vehicle. I don't think even Frankie approves of that. It's unsportsmanlike, unethical, cruel, inhumane, a waste of life (what does he do with the carcass?). Why is it RIGHT?
Question 2, not applicable. Doesn't matter if he had a rocket on the front. It's twisted and I think he's got some screws loose.
Not sure what you mean by 3, since I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.
IMO , he is just a poacher . IMO , he is no different than a guy with a spot light and rifle . he some how thinks he's above the law that is in place that 1000s of other fallow .
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Oct 8 2009, 12:20 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 8 2009, 09:09 AM)

Some normal people out there thank god. Looks like he might be done. Too bad as I was hoping he'd get crushed under his truck before getting caught.
Same subject:
http://www.deerhuntingchat.com/viewtopic.php?p=38031hmm, from what I saw in the videos he isn't doing anything illegal. he is driving ( legal) in a truck that has a heavy front bumper( legal) he hits deer that run out in front of his truck ( legal) He simply does not attempt to miss them ( also legal).
you can not take a deer by the add of a truck . what he is doing is not accidental .
QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:23 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 7 2009, 05:50 PM)

So anyway, it's wrong to kill deer using a machine because.....?
Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
Or is it because in using his machine, he minimizes the chances of himself being injured in the process of killing deer? --------------------
Mr. Editor in chief, you couldn't put those 3 fucking questions in one post?

It's wrong to purposely kill a deer with a vehicle. I don't think even Frankie approves of that. It's unsportsmanlike, unethical, cruel, inhumane, a waste of life (what does he do with the carcass?). Why is it RIGHT?
Question 2, not applicable. Doesn't matter if he had a rocket on the front. It's twisted and I think he's got some screws loose.
Not sure what you mean by 3, since I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.
IMO , he is just a poacher . IMO , he is no different than a guy with a spot light and rifle . he some how thinks he's above the law that is in place that 1000s of other fallow .
Of course I don't think a spot light and a rifle are wrong either.
QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 09:03 PM)

http://web.extension.uiuc.edu/wildlife/fil...ldlife_code.pdfbeen reading through the regs , this man is screwed and by himself .

I would agree he was stupid for calling attention to himself.
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:37 PM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:23 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 7 2009, 05:50 PM)

So anyway, it's wrong to kill deer using a machine because.....?
Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
Or is it because in using his machine, he minimizes the chances of himself being injured in the process of killing deer? --------------------
Mr. Editor in chief, you couldn't put those 3 fucking questions in one post?

It's wrong to purposely kill a deer with a vehicle. I don't think even Frankie approves of that. It's unsportsmanlike, unethical, cruel, inhumane, a waste of life (what does he do with the carcass?). Why is it RIGHT?
Question 2, not applicable. Doesn't matter if he had a rocket on the front. It's twisted and I think he's got some screws loose.
Not sure what you mean by 3, since I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.
IMO , he is just a poacher . IMO , he is no different than a guy with a spot light and rifle . he some how thinks he's above the law that is in place that 1000s of other fallow .
Of course I don't think a spot light and a rifle are wrong either.
me either as long as it is done by the law . i have killed many that way during summer hunts .
But anyway, once they get this guy the way is wide open to hammer someone who hits a deer while he happens to have a big heavy duty brush guard on his truck. I think one brand is even called "Buckguard".
QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 09:42 PM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:37 PM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:23 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 7 2009, 05:50 PM)

So anyway, it's wrong to kill deer using a machine because.....?
Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
Or is it because in using his machine, he minimizes the chances of himself being injured in the process of killing deer? --------------------
Mr. Editor in chief, you couldn't put those 3 fucking questions in one post?

It's wrong to purposely kill a deer with a vehicle. I don't think even Frankie approves of that. It's unsportsmanlike, unethical, cruel, inhumane, a waste of life (what does he do with the carcass?). Why is it RIGHT?
Question 2, not applicable. Doesn't matter if he had a rocket on the front. It's twisted and I think he's got some screws loose.
Not sure what you mean by 3, since I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.
IMO , he is just a poacher . IMO , he is no different than a guy with a spot light and rifle . he some how thinks he's above the law that is in place that 1000s of other fallow .
Of course I don't think a spot light and a rifle are wrong either.
me either as long as it is done by the law . i have killed many that way during summer hunts .
A good lawyer and a lot of money could probably get this guy off since the law doesn't seem to have anticipated what he does and clearly prohibited it. Course I know the area he lives in and I would say it's a good chance he doesn't have a lot of money and so ain't going to get a good lawyer. Too bad. The legality or illegality of what he does all depends on how much money he has.
That's why I disregard the law as being some sort of benchmark of what is right or wrong.
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 10:59 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:42 PM)

But anyway, once they get this guy the way is wide open to hammer someone who hits a deer while he happens to have a big heavy duty brush guard on his truck. I think one brand is even called "Buckguard".
i doult it but it is possible
we call them " cow catchers " here .
you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage . i know some insurance force you to get a report no matter the damage if there is a claim , had a friend that hit one errrr deer hit him in the driver door , insurance company made he get a report before he left the scene .
if you have the deer mounted you have to get a tag , that means reporting it and explaining .
QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:59 PM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:42 PM)

But anyway, once they get this guy the way is wide open to hammer someone who hits a deer while he happens to have a big heavy duty brush guard on his truck. I think one brand is even called "Buckguard".
i doult it but it is possible
we call them " cow catchers " here .
you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage . i know some insurance force you to get a report no matter the damage if there is a claim , had a friend that hit one errrr deer hit him in the driver door , insurance company made he get a report before he left the scene .
if you have the deer mounted you have to get a tag , that means reporting it and explaining .
I don't doubt it Frankie. Once the precedent is set all it takes is a cop with a hard-on for you for some reason. Even if he can't get the conviction he can make things difficult for you.
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 11:02 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:48 PM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 09:42 PM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:37 PM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:23 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 7 2009, 05:50 PM)

So anyway, it's wrong to kill deer using a machine because.....?
Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
Or is it because in using his machine, he minimizes the chances of himself being injured in the process of killing deer? --------------------
Mr. Editor in chief, you couldn't put those 3 fucking questions in one post?

It's wrong to purposely kill a deer with a vehicle. I don't think even Frankie approves of that. It's unsportsmanlike, unethical, cruel, inhumane, a waste of life (what does he do with the carcass?). Why is it RIGHT?
Question 2, not applicable. Doesn't matter if he had a rocket on the front. It's twisted and I think he's got some screws loose.
Not sure what you mean by 3, since I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.
IMO , he is just a poacher . IMO , he is no different than a guy with a spot light and rifle . he some how thinks he's above the law that is in place that 1000s of other fallow .
Of course I don't think a spot light and a rifle are wrong either.
me either as long as it is done by the law . i have killed many that way during summer hunts .
A good lawyer and a lot of money could probably get this guy off since the law doesn't seem to have anticipated what he does and clearly prohibited it. Course I know the area he lives in and I would say it's a good chance he doesn't have a lot of money and so ain't going to get a good lawyer. Too bad. The legality or illegality of what he does all depends on how much money he has.
That's why I disregard the law as being some sort of benchmark of what is right or wrong.
the law states you can not use the add of a vehicle to take a deer .
QUOTE
you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage .
Well this guy doesn't seem to be causing any damage to his truck.
Like I said, the stupid thing he did was rat himself out.
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 9 2009, 12:01 AM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:59 PM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:42 PM)

But anyway, once they get this guy the way is wide open to hammer someone who hits a deer while he happens to have a big heavy duty brush guard on his truck. I think one brand is even called "Buckguard".
i doult it but it is possible
we call them " cow catchers " here .
you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage . i know some insurance force you to get a report no matter the damage if there is a claim , had a friend that hit one errrr deer hit him in the driver door , insurance company made he get a report before he left the scene .
if you have the deer mounted you have to get a tag , that means reporting it and explaining .
I don't doubt it Frankie. Once the precedent is set all it takes is a cop with a hard-on for you for some reason. Even if he can't get the conviction he can make things difficult for you.
true but ass hole cops are another thing
QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 09:02 PM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:48 PM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 09:42 PM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 8 2009, 11:37 PM)

QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:23 PM)

QUOTE (Grace @ Oct 7 2009, 05:50 PM)

So anyway, it's wrong to kill deer using a machine because.....?
Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
Or is it because in using his machine, he minimizes the chances of himself being injured in the process of killing deer? --------------------
Mr. Editor in chief, you couldn't put those 3 fucking questions in one post?

It's wrong to purposely kill a deer with a vehicle. I don't think even Frankie approves of that. It's unsportsmanlike, unethical, cruel, inhumane, a waste of life (what does he do with the carcass?). Why is it RIGHT?
Question 2, not applicable. Doesn't matter if he had a rocket on the front. It's twisted and I think he's got some screws loose.
Not sure what you mean by 3, since I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.
IMO , he is just a poacher . IMO , he is no different than a guy with a spot light and rifle . he some how thinks he's above the law that is in place that 1000s of other fallow .
Of course I don't think a spot light and a rifle are wrong either.
me either as long as it is done by the law . i have killed many that way during summer hunts .
A good lawyer and a lot of money could probably get this guy off since the law doesn't seem to have anticipated what he does and clearly prohibited it. Course I know the area he lives in and I would say it's a good chance he doesn't have a lot of money and so ain't going to get a good lawyer. Too bad. The legality or illegality of what he does all depends on how much money he has.
That's why I disregard the law as being some sort of benchmark of what is right or wrong.
the law states you can not use the add of a vehicle to take a deer .
The law doesn't say you can't run over a deer that is crossing a public highway. What is he supposed to do? Sail off through the trees to avoid them? You and I both know that trying to avoid a deer at highway speed is a damn good way to get yourself killed. I think a good lawyer would get him off and force a re-write of the law.
BTW, did you SEE all those deer in the video? I don't think he is exaggerating when he says he might have hit 300 deer. A friend of mine has counted 90 or more on his way home from work. I have access to a couple hundred acres in that county.
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 11:08 PM
QUOTE (RF @ Oct 9 2009, 12:02 AM)

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you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage .
Well this guy doesn't seem to be causing any damage to his truck.
Like I said, the stupid thing he did was rat himself out.
hell ,,, he thought he could make a dollar .
QUOTE (Frankie @ Oct 8 2009, 10:08 PM)

QUOTE (RF @ Oct 9 2009, 12:02 AM)

QUOTE
you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage .
Well this guy doesn't seem to be causing any damage to his truck.
Like I said, the stupid thing he did was rat himself out.
hell ,,, he thought he could make a dollar .
In that county to make any money you have to own some land. People pay thousands to hunt there.
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 11:16 PM
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So anyway, it's wrong to kill deer using a machine because.....?
Is it wrong because his machine is designed to be efficient at killing deer?
Or is it because in using his machine, he minimizes the chances of himself being injured in the process of killing deer? --------------------
Mr. Editor in chief, you couldn't put those 3 fucking questions in one post?

It's wrong to purposely kill a deer with a vehicle. I don't think even Frankie approves of that. It's unsportsmanlike, unethical, cruel, inhumane, a waste of life (what does he do with the carcass?). Why is it RIGHT?
Question 2, not applicable. Doesn't matter if he had a rocket on the front. It's twisted and I think he's got some screws loose.
Not sure what you mean by 3, since I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO.
IMO , he is just a poacher . IMO , he is no different than a guy with a spot light and rifle . he some how thinks he's above the law that is in place that 1000s of other fallow .
Of course I don't think a spot light and a rifle are wrong either.
me either as long as it is done by the law . i have killed many that way during summer hunts .
A good lawyer and a lot of money could probably get this guy off since the law doesn't seem to have anticipated what he does and clearly prohibited it. Course I know the area he lives in and I would say it's a good chance he doesn't have a lot of money and so ain't going to get a good lawyer. Too bad. The legality or illegality of what he does all depends on how much money he has.
That's why I disregard the law as being some sort of benchmark of what is right or wrong.
the law states you can not use the add of a vehicle to take a deer .
The law doesn't say you can't run over a deer that is crossing a public highway. What is he supposed to do? Sail off through the trees to avoid them? You and I both know that trying to avoid a deer at highway speed is a damn good way to get yourself killed. I think a good lawyer would get him off and force a re-write of the law.
BTW, did you SEE all those deer in the video? I don't think he is exaggerating when he says he might have hit 300 deer. A friend of mine has counted 90 or more on his way home from work. I have access to a couple hundred acres in that county.
no he ain't suppose to sail off through the trees but it ain't suppose to cross the yellow line to hit one either . with him crossing the yellow line he is showing intent to kill the deer , it's illegal to kill one that way .
they need to change the limits of how many you can kill in a season. summer hunts would help .
Frankie
Oct 8 2009, 11:18 PM
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you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage .
Well this guy doesn't seem to be causing any damage to his truck.
Like I said, the stupid thing he did was rat himself out.
hell ,,, he thought he could make a dollar .
In that county to make any money you have to own some land. People pay thousands to hunt there.
yea big money ties up a lot of land . a lot of time the results is to many deer .
A good lawyer could argue that it's just as possible he crossed the yellow line in an effort to avoid the deer. Only thing going against him are his videos and website which might be used to support intent. Still, enough money greases lots of skids around here. Guy probably doesn't have a lot of money and so is screwed though.
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you only have to report hitting one if it causes $500 or more damage .
Well this guy doesn't seem to be causing any damage to his truck.
Like I said, the stupid thing he did was rat himself out.
hell ,,, he thought he could make a dollar .
In that county to make any money you have to own some land. People pay thousands to hunt there.
yea big money ties up a lot of land . a lot of time the results is to many deer .
Well a friend of mine owns a couple hundred acres there and I can hunt for free anytime I'm of a mind to. I got other friends who give me deer though, so I don't hunt anymore.
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