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Grace
Why not just secure your chickens better bud? I hope that possum moves on. They are only doing what's necessary to survive. And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge. I am not so sure the possum is even snatching chickens I don't think they're hunters like that. Maybe chicken feed but not the chickens. Probably has a fox in the hen house the dumb shit.


Chicken owner shoots own leg while hunting opossum

A northwest Washington man is recovering after accidentally shooting himself in the leg while hunting an opossum that had been snatching his chickens.

Larry Tenbrink of Mount Vernon was watching TV when he heard his chickens "carrying on" late Sunday. He figured the problem was the opossum that had already killed more than a dozen of his chickens over the past few months.

Tenbrink grabbed his .22 caliber pistol, headed outside and spotted an opossum the size of a large cat wandering his property. But he accidentally pulled the trigger too early, sending a bullet through his lower right thigh.

The 61-year-old handyman told the Skagit Valley Herald on Monday that he's back home after a trip to the hospital. And though the opossum is free for now, he'll be hunting it again. But next time, he says he'll use a trap.

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iowanic
It's near impossumable to get a clear picture on this without a link, Grace.

Grace
QUOTE (iowanic @ Aug 26 2009, 10:16 AM) *
It's near impossumable to get a clear picture on this without a link, Grace.



Sorry. Here's the link. I will be waiting with baited breath on your clearer
view brought by the link, which most probably contains some hidden clues between
the article I posted verbatim.


http://www.timesleader.com/news/ap?articleID=2723972


iowanic
You have impressive typing skills certainly, Grace. I'm hardly in any position to complain about link-aspects; since I went so long so ignorant regarding such myself.

Regarding the article; clearly the man was raising the chickens to be used as 'bait animals' for rooster-fighting. He should be arrested, horribly beaten and then forced to do public-service with PETA.

That'll learn him; spreading a completely unbelievable story like that....

Grace
QUOTE (iowanic @ Aug 26 2009, 11:26 AM) *
You have impressive typing skills certainly, Grace. I'm hardly in any position to complain about link-aspects; since I went so long so ignorant regarding such myself.

Regarding the article; clearly the man was raising the chickens to be used as 'bait animals' for rooster-fighting. He should be arrested, horribly beaten and then forced to do public-service with PETA.

That'll learn him; spreading a completely unbelievable story like that....



You have risen in my estimation today, Nic. It didn't occur to me what this man was doing behind the scenes. You were on the right track but the truth is he made up that cockamamy story about the possum to cover the fact he executed those 11 birds for lack of gameness. He was fighting those chickens. And he was about to execute the 12th when he shot himself instead. You were on the right track. Thank you for your profound insight.

iowanic
Even my sarcasm isn't working this week. icon_confused.gif

rpedog
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 09:11 AM) *
And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge.


Do you go out and harass pet owners for fun? Torment the homeless for kicks?

Those statements make as much sense as yours.
OHIOSTEVE
opossum will absulutely kill chickens. From biddies all the way up to full grown ones. They can get in damned near any place. Much easier and more practical to trap or kill em that to try to secure the location from them.
Grace
QUOTE (rpedog @ Aug 26 2009, 01:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 09:11 AM) *
And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge.


Do you go out and harass pet owners for fun? Torment the homeless for kicks?

Those statements make as much sense as yours.



You doubt someone would torture animals they trap for revenge? Like drown them in their trap in the canal? Or stuff the trap in a box or bag up against the exhaust pipe of the truck? Or beat them senseless? I wouldn't doubt this guy taking revenge on this animal who allegedly ate 11 of his chickens and sent him to the hospital too. You don't think this guy could be a little angry?? What about what they did, or do, to coyotes to teach them lessons and warn off other coyotes? Same goes for sharks.

Grace
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Aug 26 2009, 01:54 PM) *
opossum will absulutely kill chickens. From biddies all the way up to full grown ones. They can get in damned near any place. Much easier and more practical to trap or kill em that to try to secure the location from them.



If you provide the possums with their own food they'll leave the hens alone. Simple solution. And eventually they will move on. They're very transient regardless of a food source they're not like stray cats.
rpedog
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 01:25 PM) *
QUOTE (rpedog @ Aug 26 2009, 01:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 09:11 AM) *
And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge.


Do you go out and harass pet owners for fun? Torment the homeless for kicks?

Those statements make as much sense as yours.



You doubt someone would torture animals they trap for revenge? Like drown them in their trap in the canal? Or stuff the trap in a box or bag up against the exhaust pipe of the truck? Or beat them senseless? I wouldn't doubt this guy taking revenge on this animal who allegedly ate 11 of his chickens and sent him to the hospital too. You don't think this guy could be a little angry?? What about what they did, or do, to coyotes to teach them lessons and warn off other coyotes? Same goes for sharks.


You need to ask yourself why you are jumping to that conclusion based on that article. ARs or those who sympathize with ARs are often full of hate. Is that why?

I'd have shot it rather than feed it so it would move on to someone else's chickens.
Grace
QUOTE (rpedog @ Aug 26 2009, 03:31 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 01:25 PM) *
QUOTE (rpedog @ Aug 26 2009, 01:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 09:11 AM) *
And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge.


Do you go out and harass pet owners for fun? Torment the homeless for kicks?

Those statements make as much sense as yours.



You doubt someone would torture animals they trap for revenge? Like drown them in their trap in the canal? Or stuff the trap in a box or bag up against the exhaust pipe of the truck? Or beat them senseless? I wouldn't doubt this guy taking revenge on this animal who allegedly ate 11 of his chickens and sent him to the hospital too. You don't think this guy could be a little angry?? What about what they did, or do, to coyotes to teach them lessons and warn off other coyotes? Same goes for sharks.


You need to ask yourself why you are jumping to that conclusion based on that article. ARs or those who sympathize with ARs are often full of hate. Is that why?

I'd have shot it rather than feed it so it would move on to someone else's chickens.



Nothing to do with AR. I happen to know trappers who did all the above that I mentioned. Different trappers, different times, different places. Funny who is full of hate here. Not AR's, but trappers....
rpedog
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE (rpedog @ Aug 26 2009, 03:31 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 01:25 PM) *
QUOTE (rpedog @ Aug 26 2009, 01:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 09:11 AM) *
And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge.


Do you go out and harass pet owners for fun? Torment the homeless for kicks?

Those statements make as much sense as yours.



You doubt someone would torture animals they trap for revenge? Like drown them in their trap in the canal? Or stuff the trap in a box or bag up against the exhaust pipe of the truck? Or beat them senseless? I wouldn't doubt this guy taking revenge on this animal who allegedly ate 11 of his chickens and sent him to the hospital too. You don't think this guy could be a little angry?? What about what they did, or do, to coyotes to teach them lessons and warn off other coyotes? Same goes for sharks.


You need to ask yourself why you are jumping to that conclusion based on that article. ARs or those who sympathize with ARs are often full of hate. Is that why?

I'd have shot it rather than feed it so it would move on to someone else's chickens.



Nothing to do with AR. I happen to know trappers who did all the above that I mentioned. Different trappers, different times, different places. Funny who is full of hate here. Not AR's, but trappers....


It has a lot to do with AR. Thats typically how they think and react. Its irrational.

You "know trappers" but you don't know this man and assume all are like the ones you "know". I know people who've trapped animals but they go for quick kills so the animal doesn't suffer.

What you're doing is the same as a woman assuming a white male 25-30 with shoulder length hair, a pale complexion and slender build is a rapist because she saw a picture of one like that once.
OHIOSTEVE
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 01:29 PM) *
QUOTE (OHIOSTEVE @ Aug 26 2009, 01:54 PM) *
opossum will absulutely kill chickens. From biddies all the way up to full grown ones. They can get in damned near any place. Much easier and more practical to trap or kill em that to try to secure the location from them.



If you provide the possums with their own food they'll leave the hens alone. Simple solution. And eventually they will move on. They're very transient regardless of a food source they're not like stray cats.

nope...as long as thre is a food source ( chickens) they will come back night after night to eat. I have dealt with chicken killing varmints since I was 12 years old grace.
Grace
rpedog
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It has a lot to do with AR. Thats typically how they think and react. Its irrational.


So all irrational thinking wherever it involves animals and humans is owed to AR. I'm not AR. Your argument is flawed.

rpedog
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You "know trappers" but you don't know this man and assume all are like the ones you "know". I know people who've trapped animals but they go for quick kills so the animal doesn't suffer.


And I know people who don't. So?


rpedog
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What you're doing is the same as a woman assuming a white male 25-30 with shoulder length hair, a pale complexion and slender build is a rapist because she saw a picture of one like that once.


No, I'm only saying it's possible someone would torture an animal and it has nothing to do with AR, nor stereotyping.
OHIOSTEVE
you know grace, I could scream " I'M NOT FAT...I'M NOT FAT" until the cows come home and that will NOT change the fact that I am fat.
rpedog
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 06:46 PM) *
No, I'm only saying it's possible someone would torture an animal and it has nothing to do with AR, nor stereotyping.


You said this - "And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge. " Anything's possible but thats not how you said it. You say you aren't AR but you are "reasoning" like a lot of them do.
Grace
QUOTE (rpedog @ Aug 26 2009, 10:23 PM) *
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 26 2009, 06:46 PM) *
No, I'm only saying it's possible someone would torture an animal and it has nothing to do with AR, nor stereotyping.


You said this - "And if he traps it he'll probably torture it for revenge. " Anything's possible but thats not how you said it. You say you aren't AR but you are "reasoning" like a lot of them do.



Yes, he probably will. I know of a woman who trapped a pesky groundhog who was having a time in her garden. When she finally outsmarted him, she beat him to death with a pipe. In the news there was also a story where a possum family had set up house in some dirtbag's shed and he doused them with fuel and set them afire. He was prosecuted. No, I don't doubt people are capable of horrific crimes against animals, especially those with a vendetta who take it personally and/or are plain fucked up.

So you think I reason like a lot of AR's. How about someone who just loves animals? I know plenty of people who have nothing to do with AR who think like me. Also, I'm not sure what makes you such an expert on AR's line of thinking. Did you take a poll? Do a study? Hang out at some vegan board for a time with 5 AR members?...whatever your background, people who love animals doesn't automatically make them AR. Your continual blanket statements about them, their actions and way of thinking is tiresome.
rpedog
QUOTE (Grace @ Aug 27 2009, 06:39 AM) *
Yes, he probably will. I know of a woman who trapped a pesky groundhog who was having a time in her garden. When she finally outsmarted him, she beat him to death with a pipe. In the news there was also a story where a possum family had set up house in some dirtbag's shed and he doused them with fuel and set them afire. He was prosecuted. No, I don't doubt people are capable of horrific crimes against animals, especially those with a vendetta who take it personally and/or are plain fucked up.


You're assuming everyone is like that. Thats whats irrational. You'll never see a story about hunters or trappers being responsible because that doesn't sell.

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So you think I reason like a lot of AR's. How about someone who just loves animals?


I don't see that you care for animals more than others. Getting irrational and emotional doesn't mean you care more about them and certainly doesn't mean you have more respect for them.

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I know plenty of people who have nothing to do with AR who think like me.


There are plenty of irrational people out there who can be easily manipulated.

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whatever your background, people who love animals doesn't automatically make them AR.


There are a lot of people out there who love animals that don't get irrational about it.
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