http://therevealed.wildlifedirect.org/category/bushmeat/

Interesting in view of the comments of some regarding where Africans get their meat, eh?

http://www.dakotahotspots.com/african-elephant-bull-hunt/


Note how the elephant is utilized after it's killed.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...09170009AARnUCC


Another take.

Good article Iowonic. It pretty much explains the situation there. This, and the other article you posted re: marauding elephants.

'Sports-hunted' elephants meat is usually given to local villiages, Starshawk. In those villiages, elephant is a regular course.

And besides the elephant, note in the first article how many villiages get by thru hunting wildgame.

Apparently not everyone in africa uses the supermarket. (Waves to X-black)

http://www.huntersquest.com/namibiacaprivi...tnontrophy.html


As a example.

Quit being so cryptic. The comments of WHO? Go on - you can say it .....

I thought my wave to X-black gave it away....

X-black remarked that most of the world no longer needs to hunt for it's meat; something I questioned, noting Africa as a example. X-black poo-poo'ed thus these posts.

Also someone else made a comment about elephant not being a regular meal for some anymore.....can't remember just who, though.....

One time Bean was going on about there being absolutely no justification possible for killing an elephant. She challenged me to come up with any scenario where she would accept an elephant killing as justified.

So I did...and I did it from the POV of someone who took the ivory and left the rest to rot.

Ask her about it some time if she comes in. I don't know if she'll remember.

It's always amazing to me that so many of the people that can find no value in killing an animal can find no reason not to take some portion of a human's life for their own satisfaction.

what help with regulated hunting of the elephant ,,, imo . it changed the money chain . the natives were getting penny's from poaching now their are getting big dollars for each elephant killed . now it is in their best interest to protect them as a " herd " .

Yawn, nor do they need to hunt, my point. The End

And I made my point; many native african's get the majority of their meat from wild-game.

Better luck next time, X-black.

You haven't even proved that point, Africa is a modern place.... Silly road you are going down to excuse you hunting, tut tut tut!

What road do those africans in the articles use to excuse their meat-consumption, X-black?

You seem dead-set on this belief that the whole world gets it food from super-markets. Many do....and millions don't.
The articles I posted pretty well speak for themselves: some just seem to have a problem with the story they tell.

That's ok, though. We all learn at different speeds.

Oh do I think that the world get's it's food from the supermarket? Fuck off Iowanker, go use your pathetic spin on EL, prick.

Trashmouth pig.

WTF? X are you arguing that a cow killed in a slaughterhouse and processed and delivered to the supermarket is somehow morally superior to a deer or elephant ( whatever) killed and eaten by the end consumer?

Yes but men get away with it, wouldn't want to get a woman with a mouth like yours home to mother

The whole discussion was lost, a tactic used by iowanker. It was the idea that we were hunter gatherers and I said we had lost the hunter side to our evolution. He thinks he's clever, I think he's a prick.

I think you are wrong about evolving out of being hunters. I know I haven't and millions of others haven't either. I think we may have DEVOLVED societally from it however.

Well 60 million people in the UK and around 200,000 of them who hunt, the vast majority don't hunt to eat. We are farmers, not hunters, you know, the poodles of the planet

Make that trashmouth chauvanistic pig.

That's life grace, get over it love Any good at building grace? Lift 200kg off the floor? Didn't think so grace and at the end of the day men built the world you live in Kiss kiss

I take offense to you insulting pigs.

my point was made so he has to distract somehow.
You think he could at least get creative about it, though.

You're absolutely right. Pigs are intelligent creatures. I take it back.

He's a trashmouth chauvinistic buffoon.

X-black, maybe we can explore you're veiw of the wonderfulness of supermarket meat....

At what point, in your view, did hunting stop being the main-stay of providing meat for folk? Say, in 1st world counties such as England and the U,S?

I'm trying to see where you feel 'modern' hunting became sport more then function.

What I cannot figure out is why he advocates groceries over hunting when the OVERALL impact of such an establishment is far more than an individual hunter could ever have or even a LOT of hunters. I think may people are offended by the IDEA that we ENJOY hunting as much as they are by the killing itself.

There is a Puritanical flavor to a lot of this stuff. Some of the ethical vegans got it bad.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200908070931.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13367720/

The point was lost, like I said, it has nothing to do with what I advocate. The point was that hunting is very much a thing of the past and we are now relient on farmed products to sustain ourselves. Humans are no longer hunters.

Maybe we can define your view a bit more.

'Humans are no longer hunters'

The people in the articles seem to be hunters, to me, anyhow.

Do they make your definition as hunters?
If not; what disqualifies them from being so?

Even the ones who are hobbyists are still hunters.

After all, if humans were no longer hunters you would have won and be basking in your satisfaction.

Yes that's all very goo RF but we assume people remember the post relating to this topic and the iowanker stance is it's genetic, instinct etc As I have stated we no longer hunt for food and the idea of farming animals starte many moons ago, since the the need to hunt has gradually died. I'm not going to start to feed iowanker because he can't get a responce to posts on EL. The whole topic was surrounding the modern world, So iowanker went googling africans that hunt to prove what point I do not know.

The problem with iowanker is that he thinks he has an edge but he hasn't.

a) Where did I state hunting was genetic, instinctive in humans?

B) 'We no longer hunt for food;

Who's "we"? Humans? But the articles I've posted would seem to refute that.

Are you going to be an idiot all your life? You need me to tell you why people don't respond to your stupid posts? This is a knock on from a thred on here where the topic was to do with hunting, hunter gatherer instint, you on the other hand seem to think everything revolves around you and change the debate as you see fit.

Now this is the last time I will ever respond to you because you only want to bait. I'm sure we will see posts from you with reference to me but I can tell you that you are wasting your time.

I'm starting to think he doesn't like me.