http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-alb02.html
Albino deer killed illegally in Wisconsin
December 2, 2005
ASHLAND, Wis. -- The shooting of an albino buck deer has irked some Bayfield County residents, and authorities are considering criminal charges in the matter.
It's illegal to shoot albino deer in Wisconsin.
No hunter had an excuse for shooting the deer because ''there's no brown on him at all,'' said Linda Krajenka, an upset Cable resident who with other neighbors admired the albino buck for nine years, almost like a pet.
Mark DiSalva, a warden for the state Department of Natural Resources, said the deer was shot Nov. 21 in the Cable area near Crystal Lake.
Bayfield County District Attorney Craig Haukaas said he was considering options that included civil forfeiture for illegal possession of a deer as well as possible criminal charges.
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsu...al/13309359.htm
ASHLAND, Wis. - The shooting of an albino buck deer has irked some Bayfield County residents who watched it grow up, and authorities are considering criminal charges in the matter.
It's illegal to shoot albino deer in Wisconsin.
No hunter had an excuse for shooting the deer because "there's no brown on him at all," said Linda Krajenka, an upset Cable resident who with other neighbors admired the albino buck for nine years, almost like a pet.
Mark DiSalva, a warden for the state Department of Natural Resources, said the deer was shot Nov. 21 in the Cable area near Crystal Lake.
Bayfield County District Attorney Craig Haukaas said he was reviewing investigative reports and was considering options that included civil forfeiture for illegal possession of a deer as well as possible criminal charges.
"It wasn't a good thing to do, and a lot of people over in the Crystal Lake area are pretty angry," he said. "They have watched this thing grow up for a lot of years."
DiSalva declined to discuss any other details, including whether more than one person may have been involved.
"We are still in the process of looking at the charges. It's not a simple either/or situation. We are exploring options on that," he said.
Full Version: Albino deer killed illegally in Wisconsin
i think its a joke that genetically inferior specimens of the species are protected in wi.
how sappy. its the only god damn deer thay they watched and recognized. "watching it grow up" makes them more mad as opposed to not having witnessed it through out its life? fuck that.....they need to be educated on the circle of life and how it ends at death. it wasn't bambi that was shot it was another god damned deer.
the whole concept of being forbidden to shoot albino deer is ludacris to me. on the other hand the guy that shot it was dumb for doing it and allowing it to become a public matter. he shoulda just shut up about it and butchered it.....by doing something that notable he was askin to be in the pickle he's in....he's naive to think that shooting an albino wouldnt get people talking.
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"It wasn't a good thing to do, and a lot of people over in the Crystal Lake area are pretty angry," he said. "They have watched this thing grow up for a lot of years."
how sappy. its the only god damn deer thay they watched and recognized. "watching it grow up" makes them more mad as opposed to not having witnessed it through out its life? fuck that.....they need to be educated on the circle of life and how it ends at death. it wasn't bambi that was shot it was another god damned deer.
the whole concept of being forbidden to shoot albino deer is ludacris to me. on the other hand the guy that shot it was dumb for doing it and allowing it to become a public matter. he shoulda just shut up about it and butchered it.....by doing something that notable he was askin to be in the pickle he's in....he's naive to think that shooting an albino wouldnt get people talking.
I agree with you, Jim. I would of shot it too.
I think it's an odd and unessassary law to begin with. A deer is a deer is a deer. IMO, the law should make a distinction between antlered and antlerless deer for the sake of population control, and leave it at that. But I don't live there....
Yeah, agreed. It seems like a strange law to have....to not shooting something because it's a different color than the rest.
I kinda do see the one guys disappointment, though. Not that he had a right over others, as to whether or not the deer should be left be... I guess he at least had the time to admire it for a while.
I kinda do see the one guys disappointment, though. Not that he had a right over others, as to whether or not the deer should be left be... I guess he at least had the time to admire it for a while.
QUOTE (XXMag @ Dec 2 2005, 05:48 PM)
I think it's an odd and unessassary law to begin with. A deer is a deer is a deer. IMO, the law should make a distinction between antlered and antlerless deer for the sake of population control, and leave it at that. But I don't live there....
Well, in this case the law applies to shared resources. I think that if the public wants a few stupid deer protected, I don't see why hunters should have such a problem with that.
do you agree with any reason to protect an albino deer dave? thats my point...i mean in the true standards of "saving" a particular deer.....its genetically flawed by a survival standpoint. but it may be aesthetically superior cuz people have recognized this deer beyond the other brown ones to bitch about it.
i dont think recognizability should be a reason to protect a particular deer...but obviously id rather eat it instead of feed it.
i dont think recognizability should be a reason to protect a particular deer...but obviously id rather eat it instead of feed it.
QUOTE (wijim @ Dec 3 2005, 01:23 PM)
do you agree with any reason to protect an albino deer dave? thats my point...i mean in the true standards of "saving" a particular deer.....its genetically flawed by a survival standpoint. but it may be aesthetically superior cuz people have recognized this deer beyond the other brown ones to bitch about it.
i dont think recognizability should be a reason to protect a particular deer...but obviously id rather eat it instead of feed it.
i dont think recognizability should be a reason to protect a particular deer...but obviously id rather eat it instead of feed it.
No, I don't believe that there is anything special about an albino deer. But there are people who don't hunt that pay taxes that do find something special about albino deer, and I see no reason why hunters should have a problem with albino deer being protected. It's not like there's a shortage of "brown deer" to kill.
well is it a problem if i pay taxes on my land and blaze away at a melanin challenged deer if im hunting? i mean if the criteria is who's payin taxes and all.
i think the fallacy lies with the people who find albinoism something to be heralded.
but if it were my choice on my land to select albinos to shoot or vice versa....not shoot. i mean i do pay the taxes. in fact alot of the $ spent for upkeep on "public lands" comes from hunters in this state as well. there may be some hunters that feel albinos should be saved too...but let them catch em and protect them in that case...lol
i think the fallacy lies with the people who find albinoism something to be heralded.
but if it were my choice on my land to select albinos to shoot or vice versa....not shoot. i mean i do pay the taxes. in fact alot of the $ spent for upkeep on "public lands" comes from hunters in this state as well. there may be some hunters that feel albinos should be saved too...but let them catch em and protect them in that case...lol
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I don't believe that there is anything special about an albino deer.
i think i know what you're getting at and you'll get no arguement from me on that. however i think there is something "special" with albinos if uniquness could be considered "special". kinda like..."hmm..look at those deer..nice." "HEY LOOK AT THAT...A FUCKIN ALBINO DEER....WOULDJA LOOKIE THERE".
Why is an albino deer considered "inferior"? (oops, now that I look I don't see that word...but I see "flawed")
Is it a bad thing, healthwise?
Is it a bad thing, healthwise?
I know nothing about the whole gene thing that makes a deer albino... so I'm just going to speculate (since I've been doing that a lot lately) that perhaps it wasn't a bad thing to be, deerwise, since it's what helped keep the deer from being shot the last nine years. (the regulation.) Deer politics. 
Yeah, I know...a stretch.
Yeah, I know...a stretch.
because they are not colored to blend in for 1, they are more succeptible to being killed right off the bat.
if im not mistaken ive always thought ablinos of all species die younger as well. i could be way off on that 1 though.
if im not mistaken ive always thought ablinos of all species die younger as well. i could be way off on that 1 though.
QUOTE (wijim @ Dec 3 2005, 02:54 PM)
because they are not colored to blend in for 1, they are more succeptible to being killed right off the bat.
if im not mistaken ive always thought ablinos of all species die younger as well. i could be way off on that 1 though.
if im not mistaken ive always thought ablinos of all species die younger as well. i could be way off on that 1 though.
Hmm...yeah if more were white I could see how easy it would be to kill one.
http://www.freewebs.com/savealbinodeer/
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Albino deer births are estimated in statistical studies to be 1 in 30,000. Albino fawns rarely reach adulthood due to preditors. Besides the fact that they are solid white and cannot conceal themselves in their environment, they also usually have one or more of the following genetic problems: Poor eyesight, poor hearing, and deformities of their feet and legs. This is also the reason that adult albino deer have a life expectancy of only 3 to 4 years. They make an easy target for both hunters and preditors. In order for an albino fawn to be born, both parents must be albino, or if both parents carry the albino gene (they would be normally colored) they have a 1 in 4 chance of producing a fawn that is albino. According to a man I talked to with the Wildlife Department in NC, in his words, "Hunters very, very rarely see an albino deer."
I wonder how other deer respond to albinos....
Do they accept them as easily as other deer? Does the color lend other males to believe that that particular ablino male is weaker or perhaps stronger?
Do they accept them as easily as other deer? Does the color lend other males to believe that that particular ablino male is weaker or perhaps stronger?
QUOTE (wijim @ Dec 3 2005, 02:54 PM)
because they are not colored to blend in for 1, they are more succeptible to being killed right off the bat.
if im not mistaken ive always thought ablinos of all species die younger as well. i could be way off on that 1 though.
if im not mistaken ive always thought ablinos of all species die younger as well. i could be way off on that 1 though.
heh, yeah you are right about them dying younger.
http://www.youngbucksoutdoors.com/QuizWiz/deercolors.html
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Another reason albino deer are so scarce is that few survive to become adults. Unlike normal fawns born tan-colored with spots that help conceal them, all-white albino deer stand out in the woods. They are easily caught and eaten by predators. Albino whitetails also have poor eyesight, which further reduces their chance of survival.
Now, if they had not been protecting it for however long as they have....it would be impressive to see that this deer made it nine years, being that it was such as easy target. Actually, it wasn't taken by a non-human predator (not sure how many are in that area) so that *is* impressive.
QUOTE (Amy7779311 @ Dec 3 2005, 05:01 PM)
I wonder how other deer respond to albinos....
Do they accept them as easily as other deer? Does the color lend other males to believe that that particular ablino male is weaker or perhaps stronger?
Do they accept them as easily as other deer? Does the color lend other males to believe that that particular ablino male is weaker or perhaps stronger?
They probably call them devils and write stupid rap songs about them...
*snork*
QUOTE (Dave @ Dec 3 2005, 03:15 PM)
QUOTE (Amy7779311 @ Dec 3 2005, 05:01 PM)
I wonder how other deer respond to albinos....
Do they accept them as easily as other deer? Does the color lend other males to believe that that particular ablino male is weaker or perhaps stronger?
Do they accept them as easily as other deer? Does the color lend other males to believe that that particular ablino male is weaker or perhaps stronger?
They probably call them devils and write stupid rap songs about them...
they call em white devils, da buck (da man), and a host of other names.....lmao
thats funny. stickin it to da albino deer.
You guys and your humor.
Well, most involved aren't around anymore. But I'm bumpin' this one cause I feel like it.
BTW, Dave, the white devil shit was great.
BTW, Dave, the white devil shit was great.
QUOTE (XXMag @ Mar 14 2009, 05:12 PM)
Well, most involved aren't around anymore. But I'm bumpin' this one cause I feel like it.
It's okay this time since it's your birthday.
QUOTE (RF @ Mar 14 2009, 09:46 PM)
QUOTE (XXMag @ Mar 14 2009, 05:12 PM)
Well, most involved aren't around anymore. But I'm bumpin' this one cause I feel like it.
It's okay this time since it's your birthday.
Damn, this day keeps gettin' better.
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